Just was watching ghost hunters live tonight and saw proof that whole thing is staged. So we taped it with a digital camera off of the T.V. Not the best quality, but we will replace it when it becomes available.
Don't get me wrong I personally believe in ghosts and think Amanda Tappings (there as a guest) is a great actor, but I'm sometimes feel a little skeptical about some of the T.V. shows and this is why...
Don't get me wrong I personally believe in ghosts and think Amanda Tappings (there as a guest) is a great actor, but I'm sometimes feel a little skeptical about some of the T.V. shows and this is why...
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Ghost hunters (TAPS) seems to be a truthful organization. I've watched everyone of their shows and they seem to really try to prove or disprove anything paranormal.
But during their live show,there were way too many people involved (hunters and production crew), and they had a lot of technical difficulties. Also, they needed to turn off some of those lights during filming. Ghost hunting needs to be done with minimal lighting or in the dark (not with flood lights pointed on you).
And yes, the scenes were definately "stagged" or setup a head of time. But I still feel they were truthfully looking for ghosts or paranormal activity.
But the way they would jump back and forth from scene to scene was definately planned and setup a head of time ("stagged").
For something that elaborate to happen there has to be some staging...I think that there were planned camera angles and there definitely was an agenda about promoting "the miz" and the other show that they were pushing, but as far as their investigation, I think that was real.
There supposed to be investigating there shouldn't be a queue in.I would have to say staged.
They got some problems with the camera people, they blew there cover.
They proved to me once and for all that it is truly fake! I had a little faith in taps at first but now this confirms it. This is fake to the most extreme to me!
As interested and fascinated as I've always been with the supernatural, I've still always been somewhat of a skeptic. After coming across Ghost Hunters a couple of seasons ago, I've been hooked. It is interesting seeing them taking a "scientific" approach with the equipment they use, and them trying to debunk happenings instead of just believing them. But after watching my first ever "Ghost Hunters Live" (Tivo'd), I'm disappointed with what I was able to catch. After this show, it makes me wonder how much of it is set up. Do they really go into real peoples homes to help them when children involved, or is almost everyone they encounter "acting" and these things scripted? What gets me is the several screw-ups where they would cut back to the investigation and the TAP's crew where just standing still, or getting into place for the next piece. Because there wasn't any creepy music or noises you could hear people from behind the camera or through the crews mic's whispering things for them to talk about. But my biggest gripe comes from when Grant has his jacket's collar tugged on three times. At first me and my girlfriend where surprised when we rewound the Tivo to see this happen in slow motion. That looked amazing and would have been a great thing, if it was real. I rewound and watched this segment over and over. Here's what I came up with. A couple of minutes before this happened, there was a point where Grant was behind Steven whom was using the thermal camera. If you look at Grant you see him straightening his collar up. Keep watching him and you will see him move his right hand down to below his jacket and close to his pants pocket. You see him fumbling for something from that area, but can't see what. Then you get him saying he is going to go this direction and voila he pulls his hidden string making it look like his jacket collar was pulled. During all three times this happened, Grant never removed his hand from his trick device. If something unexplained tugged on my collar, I guarantee that both my hands would be out of my pockets ready to defend myself. But he reset it every time by pulling up on his collar to set it back in place. After the first time he turned around and started walking, you could notice one of the crinkles on the back of his jacket seemed a little stiff and shifted side to side awkwardly while he walked. From this point onward I was pretty ticked. I don't know if this was maybe to garner a little bit of interest because nothing was happening or what, but I started losing faith in Ghost Hunters.
Ah, so I'm not the only one who noticed camera issues. I actually noticed another point in the show in which they were switching from one scene to the next and you heard the sound from the next scene but the video didn't catch up; there was a delay. But what struck me was my screen blanked out for a second and the moment "rewound' itself to the beginning of the scene this time audio and video in sync.
If something is truly live those few seconds would simply have been 'lost.' When you lose a live feed those moments that are lost are not broadcasted.
Listen, I'm not saying that some crazy unexplained things don't happen to TAPS I'm just not convinced that all of those 'legit' moments are completely real. I do believe that they seem to try but the Mind is a powerful thing that can easily be manipulated, tricked and fooled.
Having experience in the film industry, I have to say that even reality shows that really are real have to do some set up/planning. This was a live show, and they had to make sure the viewers were always going to have something to watch, so I'm sure they planned where they were going to investigate and at what time they were going to start more than they usually do for normal investigations. It doesn't mean the content isn't real, it just means that to have a coherent show they had to set up what times they were going to cut to various places and which people were going to give the viewers information about things.
well said, Krista...you took the words right out of my mouth :)
I also observed a staged action on the live show. I am going from memory so forgive any minor inaccuracies. Anyhow, there is a scene in which Grant is seated next to a bedroom window. He and Jason are supposedly listening to knocks in response to Grant's knocks on the wall. As Jason walks past Grant into another room, you can catch Grant gently knock on the wall. Immediately following Grant's knock, Jason says "I heard that one" As I do believe they have caught paranormal activity in other instances, I gave them the benefit of the doubt on this one thinking that perhaps there wasn't enough "action" going on to make the show interesting and they were just trying to make sure the audience wasn't losing interest.
I am so confused! Just because they stage where they plan to walk on the show, this is proof to you that the show is fake? That makes no sense!
Obviously they have to agree where to walk and what to do or the show would be uncohesive. That has nothing to do with finding evidence, just agreeing to plan where to walk! You better do better than that, or am I missing something?
I can understand some of what has been said up here - but I agree with Krista. If there was absolutely no staging, it would be as boring and silly as a LOT of the other ghost hunting shows that make me change the channel. Instead of complaining, just enjoy it. Take the tips from it regarding debunking. There is no actual way that a TV show can prove to you, the viewer that any of what they see is real. But they do give you good tips. They do provide for great entertainment, and they do make you think. These are good guys (and girls). They aren't out to trick you - if you truly feel broken hearted over anything that they've shown or staged in setting up or whatever, then make your own damn show :).
Sincerely...me.
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When grant fell back because of his jacket he didn't ask the guy a foot behind him if he pulled his jakcet. Instead he went right on to "its a ghost" What always botherd me was his left hand would fly up to balance himself and yet his right arm was glued to his side the whole time. The evp recording device was a recorder of some kind playing get out. To summarrize sci-fi needed ratings so they told taps to get some proof. The show is and was staged. If you don't belive me remember that in the begining they would get no evedence, and yet now on holloween they get the most they ever got in seson 1 combinded. I just think its a little strange, you can't make ghosts appear and some how they did... ok, well they made-it-look-like-they-did.
The Miz has the stupidest nickname ever. He one bitch ass nig-gar.
TAPS did what any ghost hunter group would do in order to keep their fans watching a live feed show, especially on Halloween night!!! Face it, it's a show and 90% 9if not all) is planned out, but i give TAPS team and staff KUDOS.
TAPS always walks into places on the skeptic side, and rarely say their investigations proved anything. The equipment they use in their investigations sense frequencies of different energies (scientific proof); the only kind of remotely legit proof when it comes to such a touchy topic. I've seen them debunkify almost every paranormal claim on some events. At other times, they have reluctantly admitted that what they caught evidence of was not human or animal or technology.
They exist. . . I've had encounters, especially in my house. I can't wait to go to Waverley Hills Sanitarium and pull up my own investigation!!!
Who knows if it is staged or not,its still a really good show at some point they will catch a ghost on video and most people still won't believe it's real.I personally have seen ghost spoke with them and trully believe they do exist, however the ghost i've seen were in broad daylight .Why TAPS is looking for them in the dark is beyond me.The places they go and the people they talk too that have seen ghost very seldom say they only see them in the dark.I think TAPS would do a lot better if they tried during daylight hours.Also one common denominator for me seeing ghost on all occasions it was always really cold winter weather
I am a combat veteran of two wars, both Vietnam and Desart storm. I my self have seen ghosts both just after their deaths and long after their deaths (verified ghosts). I believe that the ghost hunters have the right stuff to do the job and the way they do the job is the right way to do it. Yes some of the stuff they do has to be staged but that does not mean that what you see on t.v. is all fake. or that they are shifting from one sean to the other because of it being set up, all it means is when they shift they have cut out all the dead time it took to gather the evidence to put it on t.v.. I am putting together a team here in Calif. of combet Veterans to be the first combst ghost hunters in the world. these will be Men and weman who have seen death at its worse and will not be affraid of any knid of Paranormal actions or ghosts of any kind. yes we will use what we have learned from the TAPS team and we will prove to the skeptics in the world that there are real ghost here with us. WHO'S WITH ME!!??
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I have been watching Ghost Hunters since the show started, and have had a few experiences in my own home. I agree some of it is probably "staged" to a point, it makes sense to do that for the best broadcast you can put out there. But, fake, I think not. But, that is my own opinion, and you know what they say about them...thanks for letting me voice my opinion.
TAPS investigated a museum down the road from me in July 2009 for an episode to air in October or so and caused quit a controversy reported on my the local paper. It appears there's more to this story, and it's been implied that a local team exaggerated evidence to get them in there!
Here's the link to an article that discusses it:
http://thebeyond.info/articles/2009/07/18/taps-visits-amos-j-blake-museum/
I think they should get ride of Grant this isn't the first time that he seams to have tried to fake something that Jason just dismisses as not proof. remember the episode were they were in a hotel and grant had a blanket pulled off his leg why he was sleeping and Jason just dismissed it. I think he is the only one that's not ligate on finding the real deal but making stuff up.
Paranormal investigation is the investigation of strange or incredible phenomena. Has anyone ever investigated the investigators though. They alone are some seriously strange people, claiming incredible phenomena. So does it surprise me they fake it, no... Does it make sense that they do, yes.. They need ratings and an audience base to get the payday. SyFy isn't going to pay for nothing what so ever. I myself have experienced some things over the years, but I personally wouldn't call Taps if my life depended on it. I don't trust anyone that makes a mockery out of the spirit world. I believe they exist, but I don't believe TAPS has found it, not once. Way to much industrial lights and magic and not enough bread and butter. I am not saying they can't, I am just stating they haven't as yet proven they can even do it. Jason is an ignorant oaf, and Grant a pansy that follows the big oaf. Steve is an OMG coward (if this dude was a cop, no wonder he isn't anymore he is a flipping coward), and the only few I give any respect to is Tango, and Kim. Least those 2 seem to have a sense of themselves, and their limits. Kim is hot, I think that's why a lot of men watch the current show. This new bimbo Amy Bruni, she is about as bright as a burned out 50watt bulb, on a dark night in middle of no where. She couldn't paranormal investigate her way out of a paper bag with a map and a flashlight. This pretty much sums it up for the entire cast save 2 but it is still entertaining to watch them try to fake it. However this season, I have seen all the fakes, and drama acting i can take for this season already. After drummer boy i dumped it from my weekly schedule. Taps has been tuned out of my world. Now I understand why some people got out, left, got "fired" etc. You can only take so much BS before you simply have to blow chunks on it!
Pardon the expression but, WHO CARES! And I think you mean Kris not Kim, yes even I've called her Kim before so don't feel bad. She is Hot, and I agree with most of what you said. Who cares though. SyFy is going to keep pumping this crap out until a larger part of the audience gets tired of the fakery and tomfoolery and just stops watching the show. Jason is not only an ignorant oaf, he has a foul temper, and should not be allowed to interact with other people. His wife even though only seen I believe a total of 3 times is no better. Grant, what can you say, he is the kind of kid we shoved in lockers in high school, and he has 3 sons, they should not allow people like him (grant) to breed, nor Jason, god those are going to be some messed up children. Steve is a waste of skin, time, or my energy so that's all I want to say. Tango, isn't that a dance? Cool fellow though. Kris as I said, wowsers is she hot. Amy, well there is your prime candidate for space case of the year awards. I also agree I don't think I would call taps in on any investigation I went on or was part of, to much as you said ILM, and NO PB&J.(I use pb&j simply because I don't care for butter)I too disliked the new seasons openers, wastes of time, however my wife watches it so I have to if I want to watch what i want. Boo
In the News
Ghost Hunters--the popular television show--is airing an episode "New Hampshire Gothic" on November 11 that features their controversial visit to the Amos J. Blake House Museum in Fitzwilliam, NH.
We have intimate knowledge of this location and will be watching the episode closely.
Bobby Elgee; Sights Unseen Paranormal
Finally we get some action on the site about someone actually knowing more the GH about a site they are about to visit. I just got done watching the most embarrassing episode I have ever witnessed, Ghost Hunters Academy. I have now lost all respect for the rest of the team, I thought Jay and Grant were bad, holy heck; Steve and Tango are duplicates of those morons. They are expecting too much too soon of these folks, of which most have never been on an official investigation. Even basic military training isn't as idiotic as these guys treated their trainee's. For the Love of mike SyFy needs to simply stop producing this crap. I like a good paranormal investigation, but you need to go into it with a little more fun, and a lot less attitude. GH has become all attitudes, and no fun! I have now removed it from my DVR recorder timers and will now simply avoid the show all together. Recommend a good portion of the populous do the same! GHI, GH, Destination Truth, Ghost Adventures, Ghost Lab, have all now bitten the dust on my DVR, they are simply boring. Same sites over and over and over and over and over. So have fun, this is one ex-fan that will find more interesting things to watch. Hope to god there are some.
I think your camera work is actualy better then theres. :(
The Amos J. Blake House Museum is a wonderful example of a New England historical society museum. Having been part of at least three investigations of the location I was pleased to see that TAPS results correlated with my experiences at the location, and not the exaggerated ‘evidence’ that I have read about the location in the past.
Concerning the 'evidence' that TAPS did gather, I believe that the ‘ghost cat’ could be debunked by assuming that a stray cat had recently made its way into the basement due to the advent of the cold weather. However, I can’t confirm this hypothesis and having been in the basement on multiple occasions, it appeared to be fairly secure. Still, you have to assume that this is more likely then the existence of a ghost cat.
As far as the chain moving and the pitchfork falling over, I found this suspicious. Having been in the location many times, all the furniture, etc. was placed pretty much as I remember it. One thing that I certainly don’t remember is the chain and the pitchfork. It seemed out of place to me. It appears unusual that these objects were in the location and placed as they were. I am unsure why, with many valuable artifacts around, one would stand a pitchfork on end and lean it against the wall where it could easily fall over.
In addition, considering the way a board could be stepped on in an old house, and something moves–the door latch upstairs did this earlier and Jason clearly points out that shifting boards can cause things to move–I propose that the investigators walking by could have triggered the movement by this principle. I’d have to see the footage analyzed by a physicist before I was really convinced that the event was paranormal in origin. It all just seems a little too convenient or coincidental to me. I do try very hard to debunk phenomena and believe that too often people resort to 'ghostly' explanations for phenomena with environmental causes.
Finally–and perhaps the most interesting–is the fact that the curator of the museum and the ‘volunteer’ that was interviewed are both members of a paranormal investigation team that formed after it was discovered TAPS was going to investigate the location. It was shortly after the group was formed that reports of multiple apparitions and conscious spirits haunting the location were reported and I suspect that the ‘evidence’ was highly exaggerated–or at least not thoroughly debunked–in an effort to pique TAPS interest.
Both the curator of the museum and the 'volunteer' are both former members of Sights Unseen Paranormal, but quit and formed their own group shortly after learning that TAPS was set to investigate the museum. This seems suspicious to me, especially when combined with the 'explosion' of paranormal activity reported at the location by the curator's team of paranormal investigators shortly after it was formed in the lead up to the television episode featuring the locale.
TAPS did do a good job debunking. For me, the smell of cat urine and a pitch fork falling over (even with the chain moving) aren’t enough for me–nor TAPS–to consider the place really haunted.
Bobby Elgee; Sights Unseen Paranormal
I just have to say that live TV is hard just to coordinate. They just botched the open shot. It would not make sense to us as viewers if they just came in to all scenes willy nilly, the show would be confusing. All the opening shots were staged but None of the evidence. Remember, it is an entertainment show and it needs to be entertaining to get viewers.
Jim Moody: "See 2 Believe Investigate"
For all those who believe TAPS stages everything, you are most definetly wrong. How many shows do they air where they find nothing at all in the places they investigate? Now, if they wanted to guaranteehigh ratings and viewer turn-out, then they would "stage" incidences at all of their investigations. There also plenty of opportunities that they could edit and cut footage so viewers don't see the explanation for the activity... Such as not showing the entire thermal image video of an anomoly or just showing a door opening on it's own. In truth, when something DOES happen they in fact show the team trying to 'debunk' it. And for those who claim this shot is PROOF of the complete stagin of the show, you must understand that they do that for our viewing... It created continuity in what we had scene previously to what we were seeing then. It was, after all, a LIVE show. Even live TV must cut to commercial. I'm sorry, but viewers would claim 'fake' even more if they cut to commercial and were in a completely different part of the place they were investigating when they came back.
In short, if you believe it's fake, then do everyone a favor and don't watch.
As far as I understand, staging is something that can be relatively easily spotted by certain production folks. I'm no professional, but I can tell you that the pitchfork in New Hampshire Gothic (Ghost Hunters episode on 11/9/2009) was staged (or at least that's my opinion).
If the event wasn't staged the alternative is much worse, and would demonstrate clear incompetence on the investigators part.
So take your pick...staged or incompetence.
There is also the possibility that the event was set up by the museums staff to fool T.A.P.S. Having knowledge of altered evidence coming out of the location, I think this is something that the staff may have tried. But, if so, T.A.P.S. still would fall into the realm of incompetence. I mean, if I was there, I would've immediately hit on the fact that the pitchfork could fall over.
Interestingly enough, approximately 3 years ago, I popped the door to the upstairs bedroom just as Steve G. did during the episode.
SO take your pick...
Staged? or Incompetent?
I am a firm believer that TAPS is nothing more than entertainment. Thats why it's on the SCIFI channel. I am convinced that a lot if not all is scripted. The name of the game is M O N E Y and RATINGS. I keep hearing the statement that they are SKEPTICS. SKEPTICS the are not. A true skeptic would not call upon or becken on what they don't believe in. Why would you call on something you really don't believe exists? As a TRUE skeptic, I believe there are only two things that are supernatural. Demons and Angels.PERIOD!!! If they are SKEPTICS why do they ask a ghost to turn on flashlights or signal by knocking? You will notice that the camera is always on the "ghost hunter" and only turns away from them when they claim to hear or see something. Lets face it people, it's nothing more than a show designed for entertainment.
TAPS has been around for awhile long before the show, i dont really think they honestly care about the ratings or whatever or if the show went under. They would still be out there without the camera crew. And i can see it being pre planned and somewhat scripted but thats just normal planning before heading into anything. I dont know if they started out thinking maybe one day theyll be on tv but now they are and just want to make it more presentable to people. So preplanned and thought out beforehand? yes i can see that. Fake? no
Personally, I loved TAPS when it was early. Now, I've read about a lot of controversial stuff and have converted to another ghost show. I think that what happened was that they started out with really good intentions, but when it got into different seasons, etc., the owners of Sci-Fi, or whoever's in charge, wanted better ratings, and they had to get more evidence than what they were, which led to them faking some evidence.
And on the staging-yes, there's going to be some of that. There's a lot of editing and getting people to stand in just the right spot so they get a good view and whatever, it's no different on what show you go to, there's always going to be SOME sort of staging, editing, or both. You don't always have a lot going on during Survivor (they admitted during some interviews that the contestants aren't allowed to talk to the cameramen/women when they're just sitting around camp), just as you will have periods of no evidence while ghost hunting.
First of all! A person's looks have ZERO to do with a show, so don't go calling out Amy to be a space-head when at least she talks and stays alert. If I wasn't sure, I could believe Kris is either high or on some sort of antidepressant, because if she isn't, then damn she must be bored. I don't call laying down and playing with your hair, agreeing with everything Tango says a good investigator. She should stay to research, because he credibility as an investigator is poor. I don't see Amy with a huge picture of herself in a bikini on her twitter page, or wearing such low neck things in cold weather. Kris' intentions are so mixed the way she tries to portray herself. She obviously doesn't hve a lot of down to earth features Amy shines with, hence how easily it was for Kris to be wisked away to international to try and suck up to Berry now. I don't believe in Ghost Hunters, but I do not trust the people around them in the live shows. The last one wasn't bad, though, they didn't catch tons of evidence like every other years. Just because it's live and Halloween, doesn't mean the ghosts are ready to trick or treat for everyone.
I think that Jason and Grant may be a bit more dishonest tan the others. If you notice a lot of the activity seems to happen to Grant.
I think once in a while they may catch something. That's when they seem to be freaked out some what.
I do wish they would try to be more honest. Maybe I wouldn't discount most of the stuff they find. I'm sure they are told to make stuff up.
Hey, there is a great deal of effective info above!
I've been watching Taps from the beginning and yes sure its a TV show, but those of you that are discrediting them and making negative comments on the way they look and/or clothes their wearing need to get a life! These are people like you and me but have a show on T.V. as their jobs and I do believe that their intentions of proving and/or disproving is an honest assessment to their quest. It's recorded for several hours so of course not all is shown and is edited...so what's your point? If you want to see things in a negative light then that's your choice, but me, I like this show, I watch this show weekly, and also get a better understanding of those things that make no sense and have no explanation or reason and look to debunk in my own life so that life isn't about fear of the unknown. I look forward to watching TAPS and am aware that this is a TV show and camera's need to be set up and camera people need to be there so again your negative points are? I will keep on watching and learning from their experiences. That's my take on TAPS...And yes I am a big fan of this show, TAPS!
First and foremost, I do not believe in "ghosts"; at least, not the way most people think of them - the disembodied spirits of the dead. The Bible says,"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; NEITHER HAVE THEY ANY MORE A PORTION FOR EVER IN ANY THING THAT IS DONE UNDER THE SUN. ...Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest." -Ecclesiastes 9:5-10.
However, I do believe in other spirits, which the Bible refers to as angelic beings (angels of God and fallen angels/devils) - and these DO interact with man.
But regardless of what I believe about the identity of spirits, the question here is where the TAPS team is really encountering them. Here's the #1 clue, to me, that this is a fraud: Why do they NEVER interact with the cameraman? They act as though the cameraman isn't there. They speak to the CAMERA (i.e. the TV audience). But whenever something "happens" they never ask the cameraman if he/she heard it or saw it, too.
I still like watching the show, though. Spooky things are fun. I don't like horror movies/shows with blood & gore, but scary-spooky is cool. So from that perspective, I like the show. Plus, Steve is so cute (especially with the beard).
correction to my previous post:
I SAID, "But regardless of what I believe about the identity of spirits, the question here is where the TAPS team is really encountering them."
I MEANT: "But regardless of what I believe about the identity of spirits, the question here is IF the TAPS team is really encountering them."
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